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Everything But The Kitchen Sink – Scion FR-S 2.5-Liter Turbo Hybrid Could Be Next

It seem like Scion has been planning a faster more powerful FR-S since before the sports car was first released. From the very first time the FR-S’ and BRZ’s horsepower numbers were revealed and the company saw the reaction that garnered, Scion has been looking for ways to buff it up.

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A Hybrid FR-S was discussed, turbochargers were dismissed, and a bigger 2.5-liter FR-S seemed immanent, but no high power FR-S has materialized. Now it seems like instead of picking a power adder, Scion is just going to do everything. Motor Trend claims that a source inside Toyota Japan confirmed earlier reports that a 2.5-liter turbocharged hybrid FR-S Sedan with all-wheel drive that will cost around $50,000. The FR-S sedan will join the lineup in 2015, after the FR-S Convertible.

More exciting than a Hyundai Genesis competitor, though, is the news that a turbo FR-S coupe is on the way. A turbocharged engine, either the 2.5-liter turbo from the U.S. Sedan or the 2.0 turbo that will be used in the Japanese FR-S sedan, will be available in the FR-S coupe in 2016. Pricing for the FR-S turbo should start just over $30,000.

No word yet on power output from the FR-S 2.5-liter turbo hybrid or the FR-S 2.5-liter turbo non-hybrid. FR-S turbo kits are easily pushing over 300-horsepower, which would match the FR-S turbo well against the Nissan 370z.

Toyota Exec Says Disappointing FR-S Sales May Kill Plans for New Models

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The Scion FR-S and Toyota FT-86 have lagged behind sales predictions and new models could be in jeopardy. The Scion FR-S was an ambitious move on Toyota’s part, giving the company its first sports car since the Supra was discontinued, but now sales are slipping and the company says new models like the 2.5 liter FR-SFR-S convertible, and 4-door Scion FR-S Sedan may be in danger.

Auto Express spoke to Toyota Vice President for European R&D Gerald Killmann who said that the FR-S’ sales are too slow for the company to justify new models.

“A faster version of that car would be at the top of most people’s wish lists, but like the cabriolet, it is hard to justify a business case to push either model into production based on the current sales,” Killmann said.

What Toyota needs to realize is that with the FR-S, they aren’t selling a Corolla that people will buy year after year no matter what. They have a sports car that is both a novelty and a status symbol. When the novelty of a sport car wears off and its power as a status symbol is diluted by identical models available used, it needs to refreshed and upgraded. Porsche, Aston Martin, Ferrari and Jaguar all sell the same sports cars for several years but all understand that after the initial release, buyers need a new incentive to buy a new car. Special editions like the FR-S Monogram, convertibles and more powerful models all renew the market’s interest in sports cars once the initial desire wears down.

So will Toyota follow the lead of the companies that have made their careers selling sports cars and make the next few years of the FR-S exciting with more options and models? Or will the most boring car company in the world cut and run on its sports car experiment and go back to churning out beige Camrys for the buffet crowd?

Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ Will Get 255-HP, 2.5-liter Engine in 2015

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Tetsuya Tada, Toyota’s chief engineer on the Scion FR-S, has said that the FR-S and the Subaru BRZ will definitely get an engine performance upgrade when the cars are refreshed in 2015.

“We [have] already tried all possibilities and there are several types of 86 prototypes at the Toyota proving ground now; one is a turbocharger, one is bigger displacement and [the other is a] special hybrid system,” Tada told the Sydney Morning Herald. “All possibilities are being considered.”

Tada wouldn’t go on record about which performance upgrade the FR-S and BRZ will get, but the SMH claims inside sources are telling them the Scibaru twins will get a bigger 2.5-liter engine. The Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ 2.5 engine will supposedly have 255-horsepower, a 25% bump over the stock 200-hp to go with the 25% displacement bump and almost as much horsepower as the Subaru WRX.

Using a 2.5-liter engine in the FR-S and BRZ is preferable to a turbocharger because it is believed the forced induction route would result in too much extra stress on the drivetrain, according to the inside sources. The hybrid idea was scrapped because of the added weight and complexity that would take the cars away from their core purpose.

No word on whether the 2.5-liter will be standard or available only in special editions like the BRZ STI, but as it stands the Japanese-only BRZ tS by STI has no engine upgrades.

 

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